About the Falsely “Torah-observant” -Jewish and Gentile Messianic Judaism,Firstly what does Jesus’ Jewish identity have to do with anything? This is never magnified in the New Testament.
Jesus is the Savior of all who will repent and submissively trust in him. Rev. 7 states there will be people in God’s kingdom from every tribe, people, language and nation all redeemed by the precious blood of Jesus.
Of what nationality Messiah, Jesus Christ was as He walked the earth is totally irrelevant to the gentiles.
Jesus was born into a Jewish family, but he was not a real Jew as his father God was not a Jew.
There is no where in the New Testament Bible or in the Old Testament Bible where are we to call Jesus other than his given Greek name Jesus Christ, and rather not some Hebrew derivation of it too now. Now when I see people start to use Jewish titles for Jesus, being ashamed to mention the name Jesus the Christ directly, I really start to believe that they too now have gone of the deep end.. for the devil hates the name of Jesus and so do his followers. I get bothered also by the Christians who do not mention the Holy Spirit often.. What fool still says, “Jesus is Not His Name?” Obviously, not somebody who knows the Scriptures in either the Old or New Testament.
ALL OF THE ANCIENT GREEK MANUSCRIPTS CALL HIM JESUS. ALL cross references call Jesus by God’s personal name in Hebrew which is “YAHWEH”. When Peter, on the Day of Pentecost said, quoting Joel 2: 33 as only one reference to Jesus, said, ‘And it shall be that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved’ (Acts 2: 21), where it says in Hebrew, “For it shall be, all who call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved” (Heb. 3: 32). “Yahweh” is God’s personal name in Hebrew and it is “Jesus” in Greek (‘transliterated from the Greek: ‘Iesous) which means “Yahweh is salvation”. Nothing could be more clearer than that.His name is never “YAHUWSHUWA” which is just about the silliest and stupidest name that has ever been made up. It’s enough to make one laugh and not serious enough to take seriously. It demonstrates a complete lack of any scholarship at all.
The English translators of the KJV created a composite name in an attempt to go along with the Jewish tradition of not speaking the Name of Yahweh and when ever they saw “The Name” they will not speak it for fear of being cursed by God, they would say “Lord”. They put together the consonants of Yahweh and the the vowels of Adonai to make up Jehovah which is not really God’s Name. At least they explained why they did it even though it is not accurate. These fools go from on extreme of error to another extreme. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/who-is-jesus-christ-is-he-a-jew-gentile-or-neither-now/
The Greek New Testament is by far the best-attested (and best preserved) literature of antiquity, with manuscript evidence dating back to the first century.
For example, the Magdalen Fragments are written in a style of Koine Greek that was current in the 1st Century A.D. during the very lives of the apostles. Indeed, ancient papyrus expert Carsten Thiede and other scholars regard certain fragments from the Gospel of Matthew to be an eyewitness account. We have some anecdotal evidence of a gospel that underlies the others gospel accounts, but it is clear — both from history and from the textual evidence we have – that the Holy Spirit chose to use Koine (i.e., “common”) Greek as the language to reach out to the world. This is true, incidentally, of the Torah and Nakh, which were also translated into Koine Greek (i.e., the Septuagint, or LXX). Many of the oldest Biblical fragments among the Dead Sea Scrolls correspond more closely with the LXX than with the (later) Masoretic text, and indeed we have evidence of Koine Greek manuscripts that were discovered in the Qumran caves themselves .
Now when Jesus went into the synagogue and was handed the scroll of Isaiah that that scroll was written in Greek?and the the New Testament Gospels do include non-Greek words in the text (spelled with Greek letters). And some of these words are Aramaic ?So, while Jesus’ use of them may reflect his Aramaic speech, we can’t even be 100% sure of this. And we do not have in the New Testament Gospels a quotation of Jesus in Hebrew .. Unfortunately, many of those who make the case for a Hebrew-speaking Jesus seem to be motivated by something other than a desire to know which language(s) he actually spoke.) The so-called “biblical case” for the Hebrew speaking Jesus rests mainly on one verse in, not in the Gospels, but in Acts of the Apostles. You absurdly cannot make a major statement with one fact, one verse.. when you have a whole Greek New testament.. one cannot use this as proof that he always spoke Hebrew, or mainly spoke Hebrew, or even spoke Hebrew in any other circumstance. In no other place does the New Testament tell us that Jesus spoke Hebrew.
The fact that the Gospels are written in Greek shows that most of the earliest Christians, including some who followed Jesus during his earthly ministry, knew Greek and used it often, perhaps as their first language.
Many Jewish writings from the era of Jesus were written in Greek, including works such as 2 Maccabees and 1 Esdras. Other Hebrew writings were being translated into Greek in Jerusalem (the book of Esther, for example, in 114 B.C.). Speaking of Jerusalem, scholars have found some ninety Greek inscriptions on ossuaries (boxes for bones) that date to around the time of Jesus and were found in or around Jerusalem. Ever since Alexander the Great conquered Judea in 332 B.C., Greek had been the language of government and, increasingly, commerce and scholarship. Though Aramaic continued to be spoken by many, Greek grew in its popularity and influence. In the time of Jesus, well-educated Jews, mainly those of the upper classes, would have known and used Greek. So would those who were involved in trade or government Get wise and learn the truth. Jesus was not handed the dead sea scrolls.. he read from the Greek Scroll Bible.
The presence and pervasiveness of Greek in Judea is demonstrated by a discovery in the Nahal Hever region of the Judean Desert near the Dead Sea. In a cave, a scroll was found that contains substantial portions of the minor prophets in Greek. The so-called Nahal Hever Minor Prophets Scroll, dated around the time of Jesus, shows the influence and popularity of Greek, even among highly religious Jew.. In Matthew 8:5-13, for example, Jesus entered into dialogue with a Roman centurion. The centurion almost certainly spoke in Greek. And, as Matthew tells the story, he and Jesus spoke directly, without a translator. The same could be said about Jesus’ conversation with Pontius Pilate prior to his crucifixion (Matthew 27:11-14; John 18:33-38). If Jesus knew enough Greek to converse with a Roman centurion and a Roman governor, where did he learn it? at Home and in school.. Jesus’ hometown was a short walk from Sepphoris, which was a major city and one in which Greek was spoken.
Christianity is a new Religion that is not an updated Judaism, or a revised Judaism.. Most Messianic Jews too now are also still going to hell.. as they are firstly not willing to give up all to follow Jesus . For some Jews Jesus must have spoken Hebrew to some of the people, otherwise some how his mission as the Messiah would have been deficient. Some Jews are were worried that if Jesus had not spoke Greek he did not care for the Jews basically.. That is about right next…
No one still even knows what the Jewish Culture was like at the time of Jesus since the Romans burned all the Jewish books and Library and none exist today thus.. People who are still falsely hung up on a Jewish culture, scripture still need the Holy Spirit to explain it anyway and most people do not have Him, the Jews especially..
Why are some of the Jews mostly falsely so argumentative and hung up on a Hebrew Jesus? when most of the Jews have rejected him anyway and are mostly going to hell.. Read all of my my posts and learn.. and stop trying to justify any perversions of their reality.. There is no existing evidence of a Hebrew Gospel of Matthew.. never has been and anyone has yet had failed to prove it too.. The fact that Jesus may have spoken Greek may help us to think differently about him and his ministry. For many years it was common to envision Jesus as growing up in the countryside of Galilee, far removed from multi-cultural hodge-podge of the Roman Empire. But this idealized view of the rustic Jesus is far from the truth. Though he grew up in a small town, he was not at all cut off from the broader Roman world.
In fact Jesus grew up with ample exposure to Greco-Roman language, culture, commerce, politics, religion, and philosophy. When he eventually entered Jerusalem to confront the Roman and Jewish authorities there – and to give his life in the process – Jesus was no naive country bumpkin making his first trip to the big city. Rather he was well aware of powers and perils he faced, and he faced these knowing, as he ultimately said to Pontius Pilate (in Greek, I believe), “My kingdom is not from this world” (John 18:36). Given the Holy Spirit, not just excellence of English translations of the Bible by translators who have mastered all of the relevant languages, it’s not necessary for the ordinary Christian to learn Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic in order to understand the teaching of Jesus .and his teachings.. In fact too many Hebrew , Aramaic and Greek speaking persons are still very ungodly persons.
Also Jews are no longer a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. It is only a cult, religion, culture. Genetics might indicate that ones ancestors were Jews, but that does not, in fact, make one a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child proved to be of Jewish origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person’s mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith and wishes to identify solely as a Jew, then that person is considered fully Jewish. In addition, a convert to Judaism is fully Jewish. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race (for example one cannot convert to become an Asian or an African-American), one can convert to become a Jew. If someone who is Asian or African-American converts to Judaism, that person obviously remains an Asian or an African-American, and at the same time is a Jew. However, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
Satan wants you to think of the verse “ and so all Israel shall be saved “ , but in reality it means that all who trust Christ as Savior and Lord , not any unbelieving Jews will be saved. Only a small remnant of Jews still will accept Christ after he has poured out his wrath upon them for their constant rejection of him . Christians and the current non-Christian Jews also do worship different gods , The Jews do not, did not truly honor Christ as the promised Messiah , but are looking for another that will come in his own name . An Antichrist in reality.
The Talmud itself speaks of absolute mockery and hatred for Jesus Christ and all Christians. An unbelieving Christ rejecting Jew will go to the same hell that an unbelieving Gentile will go to . The more interesting fact is, when did most of Jews stop worshiping God? Before or after Jesus was born? Rather before and after..
THE BIBLE TENDS TO BE MORE OF A RECORD OF THE JEWS, HUMANITIES WRONGS DOINGS.UNDENIABLE EXAMPLES OF SOME MAJOR JEWISH PERSONS, LEADERS WHO DISOBEYED GOD IN THE BIBLE
“Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.” Even the Messianic Jews are falsely as antagonistic to Christianity as traditional Jews are. For Messianic Jews to respond with such a level of disdain brings to mind the words of Paul, “You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans?” And, “If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.” The Messianic Judaism is now falsely obsessed with taking over from both religions, especially Christianity. Messianic Judaism is no longer a proper conduit especially suitable for spreading spiritual Christian truth precisely because it has not obtained the status of either Non-Messianic Judaism or real Christianity. Judaism and Messianic Judaism are both embroiled in religious politics and the insatiable desire for wealth and power. Messianic Jews seem to want to wrest power and resources away from Christianity and be corrupted by the same influences that have so greatly hindered Christianity’s effectiveness.
If Messianic Jews truly believe in what they practice, what does it matter if Christians, Jews, atheists, or anyone else criticizes them? Instead of worrying about Jewish acceptance, Messianic Jews should occupy themselves with knowing God and being accepted by Him. Instead of falsely battling Christians, Messianic Jews should seek to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind” and “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Messianic Jews should work on growing spiritually and building each other up, that they may glorify the Lord. “And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.”
Instead of their falsely focusing on proving to Christians that the Torah is still in effect.. “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.” Become real Christians not merely still pretenders, imposters, wolves in sheep clothing. AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU. And does God still show false partiality? to the Christians? or to the Jews? Arabs? NO.. they all will reap what they sow, had sowed on this earth as well as here after.
It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus. Reality is that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. Chosen now it is only used of those who follow Jesus.. reality!
The Christian Apostle Paul was so strong against the Judaizers. He saw that Christians were being tempted – not to place their faith in Christ alone – but rather in Christ PLUS the keeping of the Law. It was no longer a simple trust in JESUS to be their righteousness. They now started to feel they had to keep the letter of the Old Law too – in order to be truly “holy”. And so they became “Judaized”. The Judaizers were insisting that you could not be saved without adhering to the Jewish law. This is the worst religious trap possible.
The Apostle Peter opposed the Judaizers by reporting on how God poured out His Holy Spirit on the gentiles: “So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why do you test God by putting a yolk on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?” Acts 15:8-10
The Apostle Paul and Barnabas testified to the miraculous works of God among the Gentiles. James pointed out how this was the fulfillment of many prophecies and he declared: “Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality and from things strangled and from blood.” Acts 15:19-20
The conclusion of the Jerusalem Conference is recorded in Acts 15:22-29. In it the Apostles, elders and brethren of the Church in Jerusalem dissociated themselves from the Judaizers who were “unsettling your souls” by requiring observance to Jewish ceremonial law “to whom we gave no such commandment.”
The council decreed: “For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:” to abstain from idolatry, immorality and blood. There is no mention here of the Jewish Sabbath or any of the many distinctiveness being insisted by modern Judaizers.
“So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why do you test God by putting a yolk on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?” Acts 15:8-10
Those who today are seeking to reject our Christian calendar and Reformation heritage and bring us back under Jewish culture and law need to read the words of the Apostle Paul: “O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not… obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of Faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?” Galatians 3:1-3
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with the yoke of bondage … and I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from Grace.” Galatians 5:1-4
The Scriptures further teach: “Let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon, or Sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.” Colossians 2:16-17
Christians are “dead to the law by the body of Christ” (Rom. 7.4). Before being saved a man is “in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death” (v.5) and Hell. Hence, if you live by the law even a law unto yourself, you will die by that law and be eternally separated from God. Such a law might be trying to keep the Sabbath or not eat a certain type of food or performing certain rituals. “But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter” (v.6).
The next time you come across a Messianic Judaizer, simply say you reject their Christ because we are called Christians, not Messianic Judaism Jews or Messianic Judaism Gentiles, for Jesus filled up the law (Matt. 5.17).
The New Testament Scriptures also makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it next
When John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; 33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumbling stone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed..
“The more I hear from proponents of the HRM the more I am persuaded it is a modern form of the Pharisaical-Judaizing heresy condemned in Scripture. More broadly I think these criticisms also apply to a large part of the Messianic Christianity movement The problem is that what is attracting them is not a better understanding of the gospel at all but something straight from the pit of Hell. Consider this (dates approximate):
AD 39-40: The Church in Jerusalem concluded that God has rescinded the Mosaic Law’s Jew-Gentile separation provisions (Acts 10-11).
AD 49-50 (the exact order of the following series is immaterial to the points being made):
Paul confronts Peter and Barnabas for their hypocrisy in separating themselves from Gentile believers in the Church in Galatia.
Later, Paul writes to the Galatians to warn them in the strongest terms against (supposed) Christians who were teaching them that Gentile believers needed to keep the Mosaic ceremonial/worship laws in order to be right with God.
The Church concluded that Gentile believers ARE NOT to be subjected to the ceremonial/worship provisions of the Mosaic Law (Acts 15).
AD 62-68 (again, the exact dates for writing each of these is immaterial to the points made):
Paul writes (First) Timothy, offering him instruction for his pastoral duties (Ephesian Church).
Paul writes to Titus, giving him counsel on his pastoral duties (Cretan Church).
Paul writes further instruction to (Second) Timothy in the discharge of his pastoral duties.
In all three letters one of the critical issues Paul addressed was the heresy of the Judaizers, those who would require Gentile Christians to practice the Mosaic ceremonial/worship laws.
Did you follow the progression of these things? From eliminating Jew-Gentile separation, to removal of Mosaic law provisions on Gentiles, to fighting against those who would place Christians back under slavery to the Mosaic Law. This is as serious as it gets. This is a matter of life and death. Accordingly, the Scriptures speak of these things in the hardest terms. You can see this in the Scriptures themselves:
And he [Peter] said to them [the Gentiles in Cornelius’ household], “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean. So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me.” (Act 10:28-29 ESV)
[Peter speaking to the Jewish Christians in the Jerusalem Church] “If then God gave the same gift to them [Gentile Christians] as he gave to us when we believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand in God’s way?” When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.” (Act 11:17-18)
Yet because of false brothers secretly brought in– who slipped in to spy out our freedom that we have in Christ Jesus, so that they might bring us into slavery– to them we did not yield in submission even for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you. (Gal 2:4-5)
We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. (Gal 2:15-16)
For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” (Gal 3:10)
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. (Gal 5:4)
I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is. But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed. I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves! (Gal 5:10-12)
But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them [Gentile believers] and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”
The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them,
Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?” (Act 15:5-10)
As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine, nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith. (1Ti 1:3-4)
The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions. (1Ti 1:5-7)
Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. (1Ti 4:7-8)
If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. (1Ti 6:3-5)
O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,” (1Ti 6:20)
This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. (Tit 1:13-14)
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned. (Tit 3:9-11)
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. (2Ti 2:23-26)
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. (2Ti 3:1-5)
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. (2Ti 4:3-4)
Consider the severity with which Scripture speaks about the teaching that ceremonial/worship aspects of the Mosaic Law still apply to Christians. Emasculation! Devoted to myths! Foolish controversies! Depraved minds! Puffed up with conceit! Unhealthy cravings! Warped, sinful, self-condemned! In the very same passage where Paul teaches us to correct with gentleness he observes that those who buy into the HRM are trapped in the snare of the Devil! Clearly gentleness does not preclude hard words. Hebrew Roots Movement folks unwisely are adopting practices and habits, accouterments of a “Jewish” lifestyle that actually are derived from a heretical source. These folks do not seem to realize that with the destruction of the Temple the practice of a Jewish form of Christianity ceased to be an option. The core of OT worship was the sacrifices; all of Leviticus, the key book in terms of Jewish life and worship (i.e., life = worship, worship is life), is built around the sacrifices. They were essential to the maintenance of even the smallest component of the law of cleanliness, etc.. Without sacrifice one CANNOT rightly practice any of the OT worship system.
And when the Temple was destroyed – that was it. All that was left was the Pharisaical/Rabbinical traditions. All that was left was the ethical teaching of the rabbis (the Talmudic tradition) coupled with the imitative worship practices, the “616” applicatory traditions of the Pharisees. Outside the book of Acts we actually do not have any Church exclusive sources of what first century Jewish Christianity was like. All we have are sources that at best seek to interpret what Jewish Christianity must have been like based on similarities with second and later century Diaspora Judaism. It is amazing that Messianic Christians think they are practicing a purer form of Christianity. In reality, they are practicing a form contaminated by unbelieving Jews who maintained their rejection of Jesus as the Messiah. Quite simply, those who would restore a Jewish form of Christianity are actually restoring the Pharisaical form at best, something condemned by Jesus and done away with at his express command (e.g., Acts 10, 15, the books of Galatians and Hebrews in total). All the practices adopted in Messianic congregations have as their source Rabbinic Judaism, that branch of Judaism that refused to repent of their rejection of the Messiah when in A.D. 70 God removed the earthly temple and left standing only the true spiritual temple, the Church of Christ. The Hebrew Roots Movement, Messianic Christianity, while well intentioned, is yet another deflection from the simple, pure gospel of Jesus Christ. It is based on the heresy of rabbinic Judaism, NOT first century Jewish Christianity. It in the end, like all forms of Jesus + me Christianity, teaches a defective gospel. “
In Acts 15, some Jews, likely Pharisees they did not like the implications of Gentile free, by grace, salvation that Apostle Paul was preaching as they want everyone falsely to keep their abandoned, obsolete Judaic religion still just like many falsely do today. These persons had lied that Gentiles had to become Jewish proselytes first, andonly thenthey could come to Christ. Such as the Messianic Jews do lie today too.
These Judiazers falsely went into Christian churches established by Paul and taught that circumcision was required for converts to Christianity. Jews that falsely desire to impose the Mosaic law on Gentile converts – Judiazers. A wrong, carnal desire “to live as a Jew in accordance with Jewish customs. ”sought to supplement Pauls gospel by requiring that the basics of the Law be followed: circumcision and food laws., and who prefer to use the name of Yeshua, the Jewish name for Christ, not his real Greek name Jesus.
In the statement made by Paul in Galatians 6:12-13 that gives us an insight into who the false teachers may have been. They are people that think that by compelling Gentiles to be circumcised they might avoid persecution for the cross of Christ. As some Jewish Christians falsely thought that by making Gentile Christians conform to the basics of the Law they might avoid persecution by the growing radical elements of Judaism. Galatians 6:12-13 It is those who want to make a good showing in the flesh that try to compel you to be circumcised—only that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ. Even the circumcised do not themselves obey the law, but they want you to be circumcised so that they may boast about your flesh.
Could a person be faithful to God and not keep the key elements of the Old Judaic covenant? Yes but can a Gentile be a member of the people of God and allow himself to be circumcised? Can a Gentile be “free in Christ” and keep the Jewish laws concerning food, festivals, etc.? The answer in Galatians is a resounding no.
There have always been those liars who balk at the idea of God’s salvation being offered freely to those who believe in Jesus . They reason that a holy God must require some kind of payment from u so we can earn this salivation as well or something that we can do to pay off the debt we owe to God Judaize comes from a Greek verb meaning “to live according to Jewish customs.” The word appears in Galatians 2:14 where Paul describes how he confronted Peter for forcing Gentile Christians to “Judaize.” 14 But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”
Paul made the case that, in Christ, there was no longer any distinction between Jew and Gentile, for God had purified the hearts of the Gentiles by faith (Acts 15:8–9). He said it plainly inGalatians 2:16: “A man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.” . To add anything to the work that Christ did for salvation is to negate God’s love and grace. We are firstly saved by grace alone, through faith alone, not by returning to the Law. “I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing” (Galatians 2:21).
Therefore I say unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to another nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.” Matthew 21:43
There are many groups today with beliefs/practices very similar to the Judiazers of the New Testament. The same type of persons who demanded that the romans murder, kill Jesu Christ. A modern list of Jesus “haters” of which the most prominent ones would be theHebrew Roots Movement , Mormon, Seventh Day Adventists, the Watchtower slaves included. .And the Hebrew Roots Movement is not just about observing the Jewish holidays., not observing Christmas and Easter. The ultimate goal of many in the Hebrew Roots Movement is to put Christians under the bondage of the Old Testament Law, with strict adherence to all of the obsolete Mosaic commands. The premise of the Hebrew Roots movement is the belief that the Christian Church following Jesus has rightfully veered far from the Jewish teachings and Hebrew concepts of the Bible.There now is no requirement for Christians (New Covenant believers) to live in bondage to Old Covenant regulations. Jesus fulfilled the Law, all of it, not just some of it. What Jesus’ death means for the sacrificial system, it also means for the rest of the Law. Jesus died to free us from sin and its penalty. Jesus did not die to transform us into Jews and place us in bondage to the covenant that God made exclusively with the nation of Israel.
The Hebrew Roots Movement and the others are a perfect illustration of Solomon’s statement that “there is nothing new under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Essentially, the Hebrew Roots Movement are the Judaizers that the Apostle Paul thoroughly refuted in the Epistle to the Galatians: . Galatians 2:16, “Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.”
. Galatians 3:11, “Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, ‘The righteous will live by faith.'”
. Galatians 5:12, “As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!”
In place of the Old Testament law, we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40).
First Timothy 4:3says that, in later times, false teachers will “forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.”
If by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace” (Romans 11:6). Praise the Lord, “Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery” (Galatians 5:1).
And also take Acts 7:48-49, which says: “Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, HEAVEN IS MY THRONE, AND EARTH IS MY FOOTSTOOL: WHAT HOUSE WILL YE BUILD ME? SAITH THE LORD: OR WHAT IS THE PLACE OF MY REST?”
The fanatical goal today also of both Zionist Jews and Judaizer Christian evangelicals is to build up a Jewish Kingdom here on earth, with Jerusalem, the Great City, as its capital. This carnal, worldly objective drives the Zionists and Judaizers ever onward. Their aim of course, is to physically establish the throne of God in earthly Jerusalem and watch as a Jewish Messiah appears to reign over what they expect will be a 1000 year-long Jewish empire and dominion. Many are funding efforts to rebuild the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, which they expect will be a house and a place of rest for the Lord. God has other plans. God, you see, is Lord of the entire universe. His Glorious Kingdom is not limited to Jews only..
“Why do most Jews, Messianic Jews reject Jesus?” The Answer: What do they do with Jesus Christ? These Jews rejected Jesus Christ because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their version of the Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation of the world. Dream on..
One of the saddest stories in the Bible is the story of the Jews rejecting their own Messiah. After spending millennia desperately waiting and anticipating His arrival, most Jews didn’t want Him. They rejected what he taught, now stood for. While Jesus taught a strict form of partial Judaism, enforcing narrow divorce laws there were a few teachings, however, that devout Jews found hard to swallow.The first was that He could forgive sins. Jews believe the forgiveness of sins is a much more involved process than one man’s word. They also believe that if sins are forgiven so easily, it will only lead to more sin. Secondly, Jesus’ teaching to love our enemies and pray for them. This is anathema to the long-suffering Jews who have been persecuted so harshly by so many. It also sounds contradictory to laws in the Old Testament, such as Deuteronomy 17:7, which says to purge evil “from your midst.” The disconnect was that it is good and appropriate for a nation to have and enforce good laws, and to go to war for just causes but Jesus taught that our own dealings should be filled with grace and mercy.
Jews also do not accept Jesus’ teaching that He is the only way to God. With a religious system based on restitution and sincere repentance, Jews have no need of an intermediary to reach God. They reject the need of forgiveness and salvation since they have theory own religion and they also still do not believe mankind has a sin nature, they do not believe any reasonable, attentive person can sin so much that they cannot find forgiveness through their own effort. Their pride in their strict adherence to the law of the Old Testament blinded them to Who Jesus is. Paul says in Romans 9:30-32: What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone.
There are no New Testament promises of any future blessings for Jerusalem, or Israel but only some of them y will come to accept Jesus as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10).
GOOD” people and Good Jews included unlike the mostly bad Jews they do NOT murder children or other helpless human beings, Good people do not LIE – ESPECIALLY in matters that will cause untold misery death and destruction. Good people do not promote homosexual perversion – infanticide – pornography – white slavery – racism – blasphemy – mockery of our Lord Christ – indulge in usury – commit treason – rejoice in the suffering of their victims – support universally evil ideologies such as Marxism – profit at the expense of the misery of others – promote the destruction of Christian belief – commit genocide – commit MONUMENTAL hypocrisy – purposefully deceive others – engage in ‘selective’ censorship – LITERALLY worship money – torture helpless human beings – excel at miserliness and greed – exalt themselves above God – routinely break the Ten Commandments with NO remorse. As the reader can plainly see
Jesus undeniably is but an object of strong hate and derision to most Jews.
The Lord Jesus Christ warned His followers, “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves (Matt. 7:15). The warning was important because Jesus later said to them: “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; therefore be shrewd as serpents, and innocent as doves” (Matt. 10:16). The apostle Paul, with a deeply troubled spirit and in tears, penned a similar warning: “I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock” (Acts 20:29).
Without ANY doubt the vast majority of those termed ‘JEWS’ are ALL guilty of most if not ALL of these crimes against man and God. To confuse matters even more – there are Jews who consider themselves as ‘converts to Christianity’ yet are in reality the greatest enemies of Christian belief imaginable. They call themselves MESSIANIC JEWS
Real Christianity is a tough road to follow and the ‘gate’ is straight and narrow. A real TRUE Christian, a rare commodity in today’s morally bankrupt world, is a good person and does not do bad things
The prophecies in Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 describe a suffering Messiah who would be persecuted and killed, but the Jews chose not to focus on His crucifixion.The Jews believe that their Messiah, the prophet which Moses spoke about, would come and deliver them from Roman bondage and set up a kingdom where they would be the rulers. Two of the disciples, James and John, even asked to sit at Jesus’ right and left in His kingdom when He came into His glory. The people of Jerusalem also thought He would deliver them. They shouted praises to God for the mighty works they had seen Jesus do and called out, “Hosanna, save us,” when He rode into Jerusalem on a donkey (Matthew 21:9). They treated Him like a conquering king. Then, when He allowed Himself to be arrested, tried, and crucified on a cursed cross, the people stopped believing that He was the promised prophet. They rejected their Messiah (Matthew 27:22). Two thousand years after He came to the nation of Israel as their Messiah, Christ is still (for the most part) rejected by the Jews
Jews fail to believe that they are being held responsible for the death of Jesus Christ and are being persecuted for that reason, and thus will continue not to be blessed any longer by God
There is a misconception in the Jewish world: the mistaken belief that all Messianic Jews are Jews for Jesus . In reality, Jews for Jesus and Messianic Jews are not at all the same thing.
Jews for Jesus are advocating Jewish conversion and assimilation to Christianity, while Messianic Jews are advocating a new sect of Judaism built around Jesus, Torah observant lifestyles, and preservation of Jewish identity.
The beliefs of Jews for Jesus and Messianic Jews produce two vastly different worldviews, sharing perhaps only the Messianic claims of Jesus. The adherents to each live different lives, eat different foods, worship differently and with different congregations, and pass on different values to their children.
Jews for Jesus is a Christian missionary organization whose goal is to convert Jews to Christianity, with the end result of Jews assimilating into the Christian gentile church. This organization does not generally believe the Torah is applicable any longer. Most Jews for Jesus converts are not observant, and hold the usual Christian beliefs about Israel, the Torah, and Jesus: Israel has been replaced by the Christian Church, the Torah is no longer applicable, and that Jesus came to start a new religion. They see themselves as outsider missionaries and evangelists sent to get people saved by accepting Jesus into their hearts. Jews for Jesus the Christian missionary organization, most certainly see themselves as Christian! As “Judaism never saved anybody”; they absolutely see themselves as Christians and Definitely-Not-Judaism.
Messianic Jews – that is, the people of Messianic Judaism, believe the Torah remains relevant and applicable. Instead of gentile Christian churches that often result in assimilation, Messianic Jews have their own congregations, modeled loosely after conservative Judaism’s services and halakha. They believe Jews remain God’s chosen people. They see themselves within Israel, rather than as outsiders. And they believe Yeshua was the Jewish Messiah who came not to start a new religion but to fulfill the role of Messiah, which included bringing salvation to the nations and ultimately delivering Israel, bringing final peace. These people don’t understand that, what has been “nailed to the cross” is our past SINS, and God’s Torah/Divine Instructions in Righteousness!
Messianic Jews thus are still religious Jewish people who claim to follow Jesus but falsely observe the Torah and see their identities within Israel, rather than being as foreign Christian missionaries from the outside. One community aligns with Christianity, and the other aligns itself falsely with Torah observant Judaism.
The sad reality on the ground is Messianic Jews are not Jews for Jesus. Jews for Jesus should be the face of all things Messianic.
Jesus did bring a new “religion” into the world . Jews for Jesus is a valid Christian missionary organization aimed at converting Jewish people into the Christian church.
The problem with Messianic Jews is..(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
1st John 2:22-23, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”
Most Jews today, who are followers of Judaism, claim to believe in the God of Moses; but the Bible now calls them antichrists and condemns them to spend eternity in Hell. 2nd Thessalonians 1:8-9 “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power.” Every human being who refuses to obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be cast into the Lake of Fire forever.
All Messianic Jews who claim to love and worship God the Father, while rejecting God the Son, Jesus Christ are deceived. God is now angry with them for rejecting His Son (John 3:36).
Romans 4:3-6, “For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.”
Thus, we are saved solely by Christ’s righteousness, which is imputed to us by faith alone. A man’s faith is COUNTED for righteousness. We cannot be saved by our own self-righteousness or our Jewish race, ; but rather,solely by God’s righteousness which is in His Son, Jesus Christ. Romans 10:3-4, “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”
Messianic Jews, Judaizers today, just as most Jews, Muslims, are looking for their own version of the savior to return. Unfortunately, the savior they are looking for, and will wholly embrace when he comes, is solely the Antichrist. The Antichrist who will stand in the temple in Jerusalem (2nd Thessalonians 2:4). As they all adamantly reject the true Savior, Jesus Christ; they will both eagerly embrace the false savior, the man of sin, the Antichrist and suffer for it too..
“Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” —Acts 4:10-12
Jews and Messianic Jews in desperation are falsely trying to maintain their own Hebrew religious identity and falsely reject a Christian version of it..
The New Testament itself now had castigated the Jewish people and Israel and has minimized their presence in the promised land, and has specifically said that they are no longer God’s Chosen People.
Romans 10:3-4, “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”
In reality still too many in the Messianic Jewish community tend to spend falsely an inordinate amount of time arguing with the Christian community over doctrines, traditions, and ideas but they are not so quick to create such heated disputes with the unbelieving Jews .
The are many many major wrong approaches by the Messianic Jewish movement. One of the dangers in the national and international scene is a feeling they are always right, superiors. When a group has the attitude of superiority, they quickly do alienate many others. We all have much to learn from one another. God can unify and blend us without any group or individual controlling and manipulating others. Another great problem facing Messianic Judaism is the desire for control, they are wrongfully control freaks.. In Messianic Jewish literature and many have noticed one consistent trend: authors intensely try to justify Messianic Judaism while heaping bitterly numerous criticisms on Christianity .
Now it comes as a surprise, again, that Messianic Jews criticize Christianity even more harshly than Judaism, which rejects Jesus as the Messiah and hates Him. It appears that Messianic Jews are as antagonistic to Christianity as the traditional Jews are. It brings to mind the words of Paul ,” You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarrelling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
Messianic Judaism has become so preoccupied with justifying its existence that it is now obsessed with taking over from both religions that of the Jews and the Christians, but especially Christianity. This is a dangerous road that removes the focus of Messianic Jews from their relationships with God and places their focus on worldly endeavors which is the reason they are going to hell still, Like Apostle Judas. .
Messianic Jews are mostly liars, trouble makers, Christian haters, unchristian, weird or “off the mark” as Messianic Judaism is a “doctrine of demons and Torah observance itself is a “doctrine of demons. And they misquote the Bible to justify their lies. Yahweh – God gave us a new Covenant through Jesus, and abandoned the Torah! The Law and also the Jewish temple was abolished for all. Christians no longer walk in Torah, they are not keeping the Biblical feasts, or the seventh day Sabbath thus. No matter who instituted Sunday worship, After Christ’s death both Christian Jews and Christian Gentiles alike, regularly attended church for worship on Sunday.
All Messianic Jews claim that the Hebrew bible (which contains same new testament section as Christian bibles) and Christian bibles are all equally the Word of God and are fully applicable today. They come on Christian television shows and other Christian venues calling down God’s wrath on Gentile nations for not adhering to the fifty year debt jubilee, for not adhering to other of the statutes and judgments God gave to the Jews.
The Gentile nations were not given a Temple of God, therefore not commanded to tithe for tithing is in relation to God’s Temple. The tithes of the Jews were brought to the Temple priests to be used as God commanded, and the tithe was a portion of one’s agricultural production (Deut. Ch. 26). Anyone who tithes to a church is throwing his money down a sewer, is supporting the operation of what is an institution of Satan; Christian churches are of Satan, not God.
Isaiah 42:3 A bruised reed [evil nations] he shall not break and smoking flax [evil nations] he shall not quench, until he shall bring forth judgment unto truth
Jesus Christ was very center of the one and only religion of the Bible, both Old Testament and New. The religion of salvation by Faith and not by one’s works. God has but one plan of salvation for all mankind whether Jew or Gentile. Both Jews and Gentiles have one Messiah, Jesus Christ. Both have their sins forgiven only by His blood, the “blood of the Lamb.” Both are saved by grace, as the apostle Peter told the Christians when he said “But we believe that through the grace …of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.” Acts 15:ll Both will stand before the throne of God together condemned or redeemed. It may seem strange then, that Jesus was constantly even today opposed by the religious Jews, was being accused of breaking the Jewish law, of undercutting their entire religious structure, and of trying to deceive the Jewish nation but the false Jewish way of life, their own religion of Salvation was at stake.
Jesus on earth now did not enjoy a life of peace and tranquility. The Jewish religious leaders, who should have been the spiritual eyes of the nation, falsely harassed Jesus throughout His earthly ministry. And wrongfully do so today as well. The religious controversy between Jesus and the Jews over a walk of faith was not only one in the drama of Jewish history. There has been a religious controversy throughout and the principle actors have been the self proclaimed religious persons like Cain who also had wanted to style his own religion, offering the sacrifices of his choice. He even ended up murdering his brother, who chose to be loyal to God and follow the sole instructions God had given. The Jews next even killed their God sent prophets and even Jesus Christ to keep their own false distorted religion of Judaism next too.
Will we too now worship God as He has asked us, and remain loyal to the principles of Faith in Him? Or will we worship Him after the manner of our own choosing, after the traditions of men, all inspired by the rebel angel, Satan. “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit after the tradition of men after the rudiments of the world,, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8
and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9).
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee(Revelation 3:9).
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God (Romans 2:28-29).
And no liars would enter the Kingdom of Heaven: For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie (Revelation 22:15).
So YES! God save us from the demonic evil of the treacherous lying Jews, Zionist Jews.
The Messianic Jewish victim of the California attack Nicholas Thalasinos before being murdered had argued profusley with the California shooter Syed Rizwan Farook about Islam .
Nicholas Thalasinos, 52, one of 14 fatalities, had heated debate with co-worker Syed Rizwan Farook Only two weeks ago, Thalasinos was having a heated on-the-job discussion about the nature of Islam with Syed Rizwan Farook, his fellow restaurant inspector and the man police identified as the Californis Muslim office shooter loudly declaring that Farook “doesn’t agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion, The details came to light as investigators tried to determine whether the rampage that left 14 people dead was terrorism, a workplace grudge or some combination. Nicholas Thalasinos, 52, often defended Israel, and actively debated religion in online forums and in person,. While Thalasinos’ argument may have triggered the attack at their office party, it is quite clear that the Farook family had been planning to do something big.
“How dare that infidel say Islam is not a religion of peace! I will make him pay for such blasphemy with his life!” Syed Rizwan Farook A media outlet in California has reported that he told his would-be victim “You will not see Israel”. The County knew he was a problem. Why didn’t they terminate his employment? The attack was triggered (incited) by a Jew.The Muslim was simply defending his non peaceful religion.
Farook, a 28-year-old US citizen, and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, 27, a Pakistani national who was in the United States on a K1 (fiancee) visa carried out Wednesday’s rampage at a holiday party at the California center. They were killed in a shootout with police hours after the attack. Farook and Malik had a six-month-old baby that they left with Farook’s mother before the shooting, according to a relative.
There is a misconception in the Jewish world: the mistaken belief that all Messianic Jews are Jews for Jesus . In reality, Jews for Jesus and Messianic Jews are not at all the same thing. Jews for Jesus are advocating Jewish conversion and assimilation to Christianity, while Messianic Jews are advocating a new sect of Judaism built around Jesus, Torah observant lifestyles, and preservation of Jewish identity.
2 Corinthians 11;4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. .
Keep your eyes on Jesus Christ not the Jewish Antichrist Yeshua . The Jewish Yesuha is another Jesus and not the same as the Christian Jesus Christ
Yeshua is a Messianic Jewish invention where the Jews are falsely waiting for Yeshua to come to earth to re establish the kingdom of Israel and to rebuild the Jewish temple in Jerusalem.. It will never happen, these are false hopes for Jesus Christ himself is the new temple of God for all Christians.
1 John 2
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 John 3
1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
There basically is nothing good in man or in the world still .
I cannot understand how anyone, an English speaking person, holy spirit filled can now even use a Hebrew name for God even Yahwah, Yeshua, in an English Christian church instead of using God’ s revealed, real name which is Jesus Christ, the sole name above all other name.. this is very ungodly of them and there is no place in the Bible that says Jesus is to be called by any other name; YAHWAH is JESUS ! SO SAY SO TOO!
Would you please give us a Bible verse from the Old Testament Hebrew Scriptures or from the Greek New Testament that tells us Messiah’s name is Yeshua?
None have ever done so or ever will since Yeshua is never found in the OT or NT in reference to Messiah. Messiah is never identified by name in the Hebrew Old Testament Scriptures.
JESUS ONLY Phillipians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
. “Do not be deceived” Three times during the Olivet Discourse (Mat 24), Jesus He had warned His Disciples.
He did not command them to do anything else, but not to be deceived in the Last Days. And, immediately after that He said . . Matthew 24:13 (13) “But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 24:13 “But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
. and anyone with any real spiritual discernment knows that the Hebrew name movement is false.. THEY UNDENIABLY ARE also spreading gross error, and preaching a “different gospel.” They do misinterpret scripture deliberately, or apply scripture in a way that distorts its real Christian meaning.
And one of their blatant misapplications pertains to the vision the Apostle Peter received from God in Acts 10 and 11.
As we know, Peter’s vision was of many animals that had been classified as “unclean” for the Jews to eat under the ceremonial laws, and, in the vision, God specifically told Peter to kill and eat. Peter protested, explaining that he had never eaten anything that the law called unclean, but God told him not to call unclean that which He had made clean. In fact, because of Peter’s disbelief, God showed him the vision three times!
Of course, Peter later recounted the vision for others and stated that it meant that, even though he was a Jew, he was no longer to regard Gentiles as “off limits,” which is what the ceremonial laws had previously forced him to do. Those in the HRM perform some incredible mental gymnastics with this one by contending that, after Peter realized the full meaning of the vision, he then somehow understood that God was only kidding about His command to “kill and eat.” They state that the vision was only used as a metaphor, and that Peter knew that God didn’t mean for him to do what he was told to do. The most amazing aspect of their teaching on this is that there are people who actually believe their nonsense. The message of the vision was clear to Peter—that the laws that had kept Jews and Gentiles separate had been removed. If there were no longer any legal prohibition against Jews mingling with Gentiles, then the laws forcing their separation could no longer be applied. The ceremonial laws, or that which determined clean vs. unclean, were spiritual in nature. That the law made certain foods “unclean” for Jews to eat didn’t mean that the food was not fit for human consumption, but that disobedience defiled a person (or made him “unclean”).
Once those laws were no longer, there was no such thing as “unclean” food. Those laws being abolished through Christ is the subject of Ephesians 2. To further demonstrate that being unclean (defiled) had nothing to do with the food itself, read Ezra 2:62, where “unclean” applied to a priest’s lack of genealogical records. If “unclean, meant “unhealthy,” then that verse would be absurd. It was wholly a spiritual construct. Furthermore, their teaching in this is easily shown to be false by Paul’s rebuke of Peter in Galatians 2:11-21, for Peter had acted on the message of his vision, and had started eating with Gentiles in their homes (which was previously forbidden by the ceremonial laws) until some Jews, who had not yet properly apportioned Christ’s work on Calvary, started condemning Peter’s actions, and he withdrew from the Gentiles. Paul said that Peter had condemned himself because of his hypocrisy. That alone (even if there weren’t other New Testament passages teaching this truth) thoroughly debunks this HRM tenet to be heresy, for if those laws had still applied, Paul would not have rebuked Peter for his hypocrisy, but for his breaking of the ceremonial laws.;
Judaism also still is a false religion (Satanism) and NOT even PART OF the origin of Christianity. It is the same religion that the Pharisees practiced.
Note the very cunning techniques Judiazers, Hebrew Roots enthusiasts such as Mark Biltz, deceive us and their followers. Modern day Jews and Judaism is all about worshipping the Anti Christ and not the real Jesus Christ, because they are BEWITCHED (Gal 3:1). This movement is called Hebrew Roots, and while it uses words and phrases from the bible and Jewish culture, there is nothing either Jewish or Christian about this group as you will see. The movement usually hides their beliefs and presents itself as simply seeking to educate Christians concerning their Jewish heritage. As they become acclimated to the Jewish orientation the more aberrant doctrines are slowly introduced. Hebrew Roots enthusiasts belief system seems to be very well “rationalized,” and their false peer pressure is blinding upon them all as well clearly a cult..
They affirm the existence of an original Hebrew-language New Testament and, in some cases, denigrate the existing New Testament text written in Greek. This becomes a subtle attack on the reliability of the text of our Bible. If the Greek text is unreliable and has been corrupted, as is charged by some, the Church no longer has a standard of truth. Their assumption is that the Church has lost its Jewish roots and is unaware that Jesus and His disciples were Jews living in obedience to the Torah. For the most part, those involved advocate the need for every believer to walk a Torah-observant life. This means that the ordinances of the Mosaic Covenant must be a central focus in the lifestyle of believers today as it was with the Old Testament Jews of Israel. Keeping the Torah includes keeping the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week (Saturday), celebrating the Jewish feasts and festivals, keeping the dietary laws, avoiding the “paganism” of Christianity (Christmas, Easter, etc.), and learning to understand the Scriptures from a Hebrew mindset. They teach that Gentile Christians have been grafted into Israel, and this is one reason every born-again believer in Jesus the Messiah is to participate in these observances. It is expressed that doing this is not required out of legalistic bondage, but out of a heart of love and obedience. However, they teach that to live a life that pleases God, this Torah-observant walk must be part of that life.
The movement maintains that Christianity has been indoctrinated with the culture and beliefs of Greek and Roman philosophy and that ultimately biblical Christianity, taught in churches today, has been corrupted with a pagan imitation of the New Testament gospels. “Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, [Ye must] be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no [such] commandment: It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell [you] the same things by mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.” Acts 15:24-29
For them to suggest that any Gentile believer who follows Jesus must be placed under Old Testament law, Hebrew names is nothing but bondage, and it’s a bondage that the Bible speaks against not only in the verses quoted here, but in many other places as well. Regarding the freedom we have in Christ, let me leave you with this verse from the Master himself:
“If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” John 8:36;
THESE JEWISH FALSE PROPHETS REALLY ARE STILL THE SONS OF THE SERPENT, THE DEVIL
If the Judaizers are such pious “Torah keepers” as they say they are, they must know better than adding their own meanings or words to the Word of God, and even than teaching them. Torah, and also other Books in the Bible, are more than clear on this, strictly prohibiting such abominable practices, as following:
Deuteronomy 4:2 “You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deuteronomy 12:32 “Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it.
Proverbs 30:5-6 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. (6) Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; (19) and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Need I list more?
Judaism is a false religion that follows an extremely large set of “law” as a way of living. And, this “Jewish law” spoken here is not Torah, but “Halakha,” a collection of orally transmitted interpretations of “Mitzvot” (613 biblical laws), “Talmudic laws,” and later including the rabbinical laws. Talmud consists of “Gemura” (“learning by tradition”), Mishna (“oral” Torah), and Torah. The actual Torah is the smallest part of the whole teaching, and it is mainly about the laws and the gematria (Kabbalistic numerology). Except actual Torah, they are all compilations of orally transmitted “teachings” of so-called “sages” and rabbis, which originated around the time of the Babylonian exile between 597 and 538 BC (2 Ki 24-25; 2 Ch 36; and Ezr – Neh).
“Judaism is not just a set of Jewish beliefs about God, man and the universe. Judaism is a comprehensive way of life, filled with rules and practices that affect every aspect of life: what you do when you wake up in the morning, what you can and cannot eat, what you can and cannot wear, how to groom yourself, how to conduct business, who you can marry, how to observe the holidays and Shabbat, and perhaps most important, how to treat God, other people, and animals. This set of rules and practices is known as halakhah.”
This “Halakha” was “the law” against which our Lord and Apostle Paul spoke so strongly; they were the “tradition of elders,” and “the law” we should not be “under” (Romans 1-8).
Matthew 15:(1) Then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem came to Jesus, saying, (2) “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.” (3) He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? (4) “For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ (5) “But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”– (6) ‘then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. (7) “Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: (8) ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. (9) And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ “
Believing to be following the teaching of Moses, most of Israelites were probably “Judaized” by the time our Lord Jesus Christ began His ministry, which was over 400 years after the Pharisees began forming during the time of the Babylonian exile and had taken over the Judeans by their way, elevating themselves as the spiritual authority of the Israelites, against which Jesus Christ our Messiah spoke. Even the Apostle Peter was actually “Judaized,” as he followed the tradition of Judaism until he was rightfully rebuked by the Apostle Paul for doing so and he Peter repented of it.
Please make no mistake that the “false” movement of God, Hebraic Roots Awakening and the Messianic Jewish Movement are still a lie, the big “deception.” As this confusion is misleading some believers to practice legalism and empty traditions of Judaism. They the present Jews now today are not the “House of Judah.” The core group and the majority of the Zionist are false Jews. They, as a group, are neither true descendants of Judah nor Jacob, and not even of Abraham. Christians alone now are.. They are falsely trying to make Christians to look back and follow the Mosaic Laws and not too look forward to following Jesus Christ
Of a Jewish Heritage Apostle Paul had said on Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Judaism, which “the Jews” practice today, and traditions that are appearing to be biblical have been all distorted and usurped by the occult meanings. There are many secular Jewish people, some may be actually Christians, but the Illuminati Zionist Jews, many Orthodox Jews, and most of the Ultra-Orthodox Jews do practice Satanism based on Kabbalah. The biblical sacred objects, such as menorah, and “Tree of life,” and even the name of YHVH (Tetragramaton, יהוה “yod-hey-vav-hey”), have become mystical satanic symbols to them. Their lives are full of Kabbalistic symbols, amulets, magical prayers that take away your sin, and highly satanic rituals.Zionism is a way, or a trap, to “draw” everyone to Israel for their final annihilation
Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews?
So, according to the translation by the NKJV, “Judaizing” means “to live as Jews.” It is not just about circumcision, but to live according to the customs and traditions of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
If you follow the traditions of Judaism, you are in error, a Judaizer by definition. It does not matter either you believe that “you are saved by grace alone through faith” (Eph 2:8-9) and the circumcision is not required for the salvation, or not. If you do things what the Jews say to do, all most which are not applicable even if they were in the Bible, that is all “Judaizing,” which means, “conforming to the practices and customs of false Judaism.”
And, did you know that most of the practices and customs of the Messianic Jews are based on Judaism? And, Judaism, old or modern, is not based on the biblical teaching . . . not at all?
Christianity is made up of people from “every tribe, tongue, people, and nation” (Rev 5:9; 13:7; 14:6), and not just “the Jews.” Yes “the Jews,” are not the same as the House of Judah any longer.
And, the Judaizers are those who “live as the Jews,” and who influence non-Jews to live as the Jews, following the teaching of Halakha, wearing what they wear (tallit, tzitzi, and kippah, etc.), talking like they talk with jargon Hebrew terminologies, calling YHVH, “HaShem,” meaning “the name,” spelling “God” with a dash in the middle (“G-d”), praying the prescribed prayers at the prescribed time, keeping the Sabbath and the Feasts religiously, eating the Kosher Food, and even getting circumcised. But, when they do them, they do with fear of breaking the law and feel the guilt when they do not do what they are “supposed to” do. Judaism is a false religion originates in the ancient Babylon. Judaism is of Satan. It only has an outward appearance that they the Jews do follow Torah and worship God according to the Old Covenant. Judaism was and is NOT of God , but of Satan, and 2) IS NOT the origin of Christianity.
It is a fact that the Judaizers often first falsely tell you the truth that the Christianity is revised Judaism. Then, they invariably lie and say that their Judaized way is the true way to worship God, Jesus, and that Christians do not know “Torah” the way the Jews do and that is CORRECT also! Of course, we all mostly do not know it, and that is a good thing, BECAUSE the Jews’ way of knowing Torah is Judaism, which is through Talmud (Mishnah ‘Oral Torah,’ Gemaria, Halakha) and NOT the original Five Books of Moses even intented for the past Jews. Before you know it if you falsely listen to them , then, you would be observing the feasts and Sabbath in Judaic ways. This is the very definition of Judaization. Doing so is as empty observation even of Easters and Christmas … From one big lie to another, and you are being this still still deceived.
The fallacy that Christianity originated in Judaism is the BIGGEST LIE of this Age. The term, “Judeo-Christian” must be eliminated from your vocabulary and be replaced by the term, “Anointed Christianity.” For anyone to teach “Torah” to Christians, which he tells us to love and know God better in the same statement is still a great big lie, a demonic undertaken.. Judaism is the past, Christianity is the future. why are they doing these things to deceive us? Because … Messianic and Hebraic Roots Movements are the new Judaization plot of the false Zionists, who have been working in order to lead you astray into the trap of the Satanistic and Kabbalistic Judaism. This is a major part of the preparation for the “Great Deception,” and that is the false Jewish Yeshua messiah to come to Israel yet.. It is no minor mistake or confusion now, but it this delusion will lead you into the great deception, then you will find yourself trapped in the midst of the Great Deception. And, then, it will be too late for you too. You will go to Hell and not to the New Heavenly Jerusalem, in Heaven..
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you.”
Ephesians 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
One thing is certain … that when THIS FALSE end time prophecy is widely promoted by a card-carrying Zionist, such as John Hagee (the founder of Christians United For Israel) with bells and whistles, it is not true prophecy. Simple, and that easy. The problem is, however, that too many people are mindlessly listening to him and following him, not even knowing what “Zionism” is AND WHAT THE BIBLE REALY SAYS ABOUT IT TOO. John Hagee clearly “predicts” that the rapture will occur sometime during the four blood moon eclipses, and somewhat vaguely implies that the Messiah is returning after that. But, more importantly, he has always been a strong advocate for the unbiblical “Armageddon,” by which he means the Middle Eastern War in which Israel attacks the Arabic nations. He wants war and wants Israel to nuke Iran. This is false Zionism: the projection of the supremacy of the Illuminati-controlled current political State of Israel. It is the way our Father chooses to fulfill His plan to eliminate the evil on earth, but we are never to conform to the false way the current State of Israel is and her political agenda are at all.
– a false international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel
– a false Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to re-establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.
It was first conceptualized by a Jewish German, Theodor Herzl, in his book, “Der Judenstat” (“The Jewish State,” 1896), and later became a strong and forceful movement among the Jews.
As you can see already from the definitions above, this “movement” has nothing to do with the true biblical and genetic Israelite. And, this is a “political movement,” falsely claiming the biblical entitlement of the Land of Israel based on the “false” identity as the Children of Abraham (Gen 12-17), claiming the right to live in the Land of Israel according to the Abrahamic Covenant, and also, based on the false prophecy that “the Jews” are still now the “Chosen People” of God to rule the world as Christians alone now are the chosen people of God.
The current State of Israel has been created with political manipulations and the military force by a small group of international banker elites for their rebellious ambitions. The illuminati, the agent of Satan (Lucifer, they prefer to call), has been working tirelessly for hundreds of years to mimic and “counterfeit” the true Restoration through his last and the greatest plot called, the “New World Order (NWO).” They are trying to establish a police-state centralized one-world government with one-world religion, which is the Satanism (includes Freemasonry, Judaism, Paganism, New Age, Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Church of God, Mormonism, etc. all false religions combined), placing their own “false messiah” on the throne, and rule from Jerusalem. They are even trying to build their own so-called the “third temple” to forcefully fulfill their diabolical understanding of the biblical prophecies (Temple Institute). I kid you not.
That is the Satan’s grand scheme to take over the process of the Restoration and subvert it, just as he has been plotting and relentlessly working at it from the beginning.
God, Jesus Christ never intended to re establish a Jewish nation in the Land of Israel even “by force” or by the hand of man.The New Jerusalem is the Bride of the Messiah Jesus , and that rather still will be the City of God where His remnant who will have been regenerated and perfected spiritually will dwell with their God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit
The Abrahamic Covenant was fulfilled as the Messiah Jesus the Christ, his Seed (Gen 22:18; Gal 3:16), came, died for us, and was resurrected. Now, those who believe in Him of any race, nationality, or tongue can inherit the heavenly Jerusalem in Him in the Age to come (Gal 3:13; et al.). The biblical Zion is not meant to be on earth or consisted of any particular race or people group
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
The problem even with the Messianic Jews and most JEWS is that they are color blind.. they can only see things through a Jewish perspective.. not the reality.
JESUS HAD WARNED THE JEWS IN JERUSALEM ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM AND IT’S TEMPLE AND WHY AS WELL.
Matthew 23:37,38:O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stone them which are sent to you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not!
Luke 19:41-44 And when he (Jesus) was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
Now most of the Jews of their day (especially the Essenes and the Pharisees) even most Jews today were looking falsely for a Jewish Messiah to come who would restore national Israel, set up an earthly kingdom,and were surprised Jesus was talking about the destruction of the temple and the desolation of Israel next instead, Jesus rather indicated the desolation next of the Jews, Israel * and he relatedly prophesied both the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem; and they of course had expected falsely that anyway next the temple in Jerusalem would be rebuilt,and the nation of Israel would be restored which will never happen again in God ‘s plan…. Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. so they had asked , 1 “When will this happen, and 2 what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
The meaning of the term desolate is very clear, The nation of Israel , Jews next will be replaced as God’s chosen ones.. .. Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishopric let another take.
Chosen is never again used by God to indicate the Jews but rather only of the Christian church.
John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1 Corinthians 2: 14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
1 Corinthians 1: 2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:
9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment.
23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness,
24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
The God of the Old Testament was never a Jew, God called the Jews to be His “chosen people” through whom He would accomplish His master plan for history (Deuteronomy 7:6).
It was through the Jewish people that God gave the world His Word. And it was through the Jews that He sent the Messiah.The Hebrew Scriptures say that the Jews were also chosen to be witnesses of God — of what it means to have a relationship with Him (Isaiah 43:10-12).
The history of Israel attests to the fact that when one is faithful to God, He blesses; when one is unfaithful, He disciplines; and when one repents, God forgives and forgets and begins to bless once again. Today the Jews are under God’s curse, Negative discipline.
Jesus himself told His disciples that a day would come when the Jews would be dispersed among all the nations of the world and Jerusalem would be trampled down by the Gentiles, the disobedience of the Jews has invalidated God’s promises to them. God had already given the descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob the title deed to the land of Canaan (Genesis 12:1-3; 17:1-8; 26:1-5; and 28:13-14).
Now,Moses proclaimed that if the people were obedient to God, He would shower them with blessings (Deuteronomy 28:1-14). Their children, their crops and their animals would be blessed (28:4). Their enemies would be defeated and they would “abound in prosperity” and be established as “a holy people whom the rest of the world would fear (28:7-11).
Moses proceeded to sternly warn them that if they were disobedient to God, He would place curses on them. Their children would rebel, their crops would fail and their animals would not reproduce (Deuteronomy 28:16-19). They would also suffer from diseases, drought, and foreign domination (28:21,24,33).
“Moreover, the LORD will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth; and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone, which you or your fathers have not known” (Deuteronomy 28:64). After listing many possible remedial judgments (Leviticus 26:14-31), just as in Deuteronomy, Moses warned that God’s ultimate judgment would be their “scattering among the nations” (26:33).
Hadrian, the Roman Emperor,according to Roman historian Cassius Dio (c. 150-235 AD), had 580,000 Jews killed, and 50 fortified towns and 985 villages were razed to the ground. Those who were not killed were sold into slavery. Additionally, Hadrian ordered Jews to be banned from Jerusalem, except on the day of Tisha B’Av (the day of mourning over the destruction of the first two temples)
According to Roman records, there were about 8 to 10 million Jews in the First Century. Now there are only about 4 million more today than 2,000 years ago. This fact is the fulfillment of this prophecy is found in Deuteronomy 4:27— “And the LORD will scatter you among the peoples, and you shall be left few in number among the nations, where the LORD shall drive you.”
The Christian view concerning the Jews today is that “God has washed His hands of all of them”
Romans 15:8 For I say that Christ has become a servant to the circumcision on behalf of the truth of God to confirm the promises given to the fathers,
Romans 12:5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.
Now Jesus was truly a Jew or not? Is Jesus still a Jew and his followers as well? NO.
The NT described as “believers”, as those who “believe in (on) the Lord Jesus”, as “Christians” .
Then were all those who are referred to as “Jews” in the NT Scriptures followers of the Lord Jesus Christ or rather adherents to an OT based (and, at least in part, an apostate) religion?
Were those who are referred to as “Gentiles” followers and believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, the non Jewish folks who who were not natural descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel? No.
And then were those who are referred to as members of the “church of God” believers in and followers of the Lord Jesus Christ who then were also called by the term “Christian”? Yes
Now what definition or descriptive term one should use today for those who are believers in and followers of the Lord Jesus Christ in the biblical sense … since the lying Messianic Jews say that ‘Christian” would then not be fitting for the biblical followers of Christ?
Now those of a Gentile background who repented and believed in and became followers of the Lord Jesus Christ biblically speaking still “Gentiles” or honestly had they become members of the “church of God” and thus were now “Christians” rather than “Gentiles”?
And were also not those of a Jew background who repented and believed in and became followers of the Lord Jesus Christ biblically speaking are not still “Jews” but rather had they become members of the “church of God” and thus truly were now “Christians” rather than “Jews”? Yes.
Even though thousands of Jewish people embraced Jesus in the early days of the Christian church (three thousand in Acts 2:41; at least another two thousand in Acts 4:4). Nevertheless, one of the first and greatest Christian missionary, an ex Jew himself and former Pharisee, the apostle Paul, protested that he was “saying nothing but what the prophets and Moses said would come to pass: that the Messiah must suffer and that, by being the first to rise from the dead, he would proclaim light both to our people and to the Gentiles” (Acts 26:22–23).
Most Jewish people still turn away from Jesus as the one who fulfills the promises of God in the Jewish Scriptures. They Reject Jesus, Reject God.
Neither Jesus nor his apostles taught that Israel would be rescued from judgment in spite of turning away from Jesus. Jesus did not come as one among many ways to God. He came as the true and only Jewish Messiah and Mediator between God and man. “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).
And he Jesus taught plainly that to reject him was to reject God
“You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” (John 8:19)
“Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.” (John 5:23)
“I know that you do not have the love of God within you. I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me.” (John 5:42–43)
“If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here.” (John 8:42)
“No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.” (1 John 2:23)
Why do many of the Jews believe that Jesus did not exist until he was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary? Has that not been historically been a part of their doctrine? Is it because God is not Jewish? At least since the sixth century before Christ, the bedrock of Judaism has been monotheism, belief in one God which excludes Jesus..
However many Jews at the time of Jesus believed he was the Messiah and became Christians. The New covenant is for Everyone and not a sole Jewish Nation.
The Mosaic Covenant and Torah was given only to the Jewish people that were present at Mt. Sinai. If the Mosaic covenant were for the whole world: Why is this not stated anywhere in the bible?
Also, how do we explain why after 3300 years the very people who it has been given to (the Jews) haven’t figured this out and insist it is Noah’s laws for the rest of the world?
Yeshua, a replacement Messiah, is a bold faced liar and not the real Jesus Christ . So why do they write “G-d” and use Hebraic terminology for the Greek New Testament original Jesus. Because it is only Jesus what his mother and brothers , disciples, apostles, others have called him. Jesus was the Christ. He was born Jewish and died a Christian.
Was Jesus a Jew? Of course, Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. He’s not a Sadducee. He’s not a Pharisee. Jesus Christ,” the Anointed One (John 1:41, 4:25); was not only a Rabbi but Prophet (Matt. 7:28-8:1). Jesus next in retrospect is seen not as a Jew, but as something else, as a founder of Christianity.
Jesus’ followers were first called Christians in Antioch (Acts 11:26)
“Now some of the scribes were sitting there asking themselves, ‘Why does this man speak that way? Who but God alone can forgive sins?’ Jesus immediately knew in his mind what they were thinking to themselves, so he said, ‘Why are you thinking such things in your hearts? Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, Your sins are forgiven, or to say, Rise, pick up your mat and walk? But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority for sins on earth—he said to the paralytic, ‘I say to you, rise, pick up your mat, and go home’” (Mark 2:8-11).
After Caiaphas, the high priest, commanded Jesus, “I order you to tell us under oath before the living God whether you are the Messiah, the Son of God,” Jesus said, “You have said so. But I tell you: From now on you will see ‘the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power’ and ‘coming on the clouds of heaven.’ Then the high priest tore his robes and said, ‘He has blasphemed! What further need have we of witnesses? You [members of the Sanhedrin] have now heard the blasphemy; what is your opinion?’ They said in reply, ‘He deserves to die!’” (Matthew 26:63-66, with a similar passage in Mark 14:61-64).
Now do we really want to become “Jewish”, seeing what the NT scriptures tell us about “the sins of the Jews” at the time of Christ and their false beliefs ? No.
Was not the Jewish understanding of the coming kingdom with Christ as a political leader and deliverer and re-establisher of a “earthly nation” false? Yes.
In light of the fact that in the NT scriptures any “Jewishness” seems mostly used for the beliefs / actions of “unbelieving Jews”, one ought perhaps to notice more emphatically the difference between “divine truth” and “Jewish teaching” ?
Jews at the time of Christ and in the past had too many things wrong concerning Christ, NT Christianity, the religion of Jesus, and what he commands us to believe and do, it now has been corrupted by the world religion known as Judaism.
NT Christianity is not just a copy of biblical Judaism, and even the Apostle Paul fought constantly the tendency of the Moses party to drag Christians back under the Old Covenant. Apostle Paul truly waged a relentless war against those who wanted Christians to be circumcised and observe food laws and Sabbath, holy days and new moons.
The words of Paul are just as much scripture as the OT, in fact they are the final word to us in the New Covenant. There is a big vast unacceptable difference between Christians and Jewish, Hebrew Christians.
Jews today need to separate the 2 covenants and 2 separate callings instead of them trying to take the land of promise by force(pressing into it).
According to Gal 3.29 only “in Christ” do people of all nations, bloods, and creeds become the new commonwealth [Israel] of God [Gal 6.16].
2 Corinthians 9:5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brethren that they would go on ahead to you and arrange beforehand your previously promised bountiful gift, so that the same would be ready as a bountiful gift and not affected by covetousness.
16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.
18 For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise.
22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise
Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.
Romans 10: 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness.
6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: ” Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ (that is, to bring Christ down),
7 or ‘ Who will descend into the abyss?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
8 But what does it say? ” The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart“–that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, ” Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
13 for ” Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, ” How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news of good things!”
16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, ” Lord, who has believed our report?”
17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
18 But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have; ” Their voice has gone out into all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world.”
19 But I say, surely Israel did not know, did they? First Moses says, ” I will make you jealous by that which is not a nation, By a nation without understanding will I anger you.”
20 And Isaiah is very bold and says, ” I was found by those who did not seek Me, I became manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”
21 But as for Israel He says, ” All the day long I have stretched out My hands to a disobedient and obstinate people.
Jews and Christians both claim to have God’s Word, but they basically do not have the same religion. Judaism does not accept the central Christian teaching that Jesus Christ is the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament.
Jews who have become supposedly Christians may refer to themselves as “completed Jews.” but they are certainly not Christians. Faith in Yeshua is a false faith , only a clear affirmation of Jews identity as still being Jews not Christians.
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3.28
John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 2 The Word was with God in the beginning. 3 All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of mankind. 5 And the light shines on in the darkness, but the darkness has not mastered it. 6 A man came, sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify about the light, so that everyone might believe through him. 8 He himself was not the light, but he came to testify about the light. 9 The true light, who gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was created by him, but the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to what was his own, but his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who have received him – those who believe in his name – he has given the right to become God’s children 13
– children not born by human parents or by human desire or a husband’s decision, but by God.
14 Now the Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We saw his glory – the glory of the one and only, full of grace and truth, who came from the Father. 15 John testified about him and shouted out, “This one was the one about whom I said, ‘He who comes after me is greater than I am, because he existed before me.’” 16 For we have all received from his fullness one gracious gift after another. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came about through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known.
The Mosaic law was temporarily established for a certain purpose to keep a people separate so a seed could come in the line of David,Jacob,Isaac,Abraham,Shem,Seth and Adam.The Mosaic Law is not required for any Salvation because it was just a requirement of a nation who truly rejected next their Messiah, the future promises as as promised to Abraham
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
In his well known prophecy about the end of the age recorded by Matthew and Luke, Jesus predicted the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem which came to pass 40 years after his death and resurrection. The Meaning of The Number 40, this number 40 symbolizes a period of warning . The prophet Jonah powerfully warned ancient Nineveh, for forty days, that its destruction would come because of its many sins.
v. Ju·da·ized, Ju·da·iz·ing, Ju·da·iz·es. v.tr. To bring into conformity with Judaism. v.intr. To adopt Jewish customs and beliefs. ( Not the Christian ones)
JEWS, MESSIANIC JEWS INCLUDED, JUDAIZERS, MORMONS, SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS, JEHOVAH WITTNESSES, MUSLIMS, CHURCH OF GOD, ETC, ARE FALSELY STILL REWRITING THE BIBLE, WRITING A VERSION OF JESUS CHRIST THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT. THEY ARE PRODUCING A RELiGION BASED ON ONE GOOD WORKS, AND NOT A PERSONAL SALVATION BY FAITH BY THE GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST. ACCEPT NO FALSE SUBSTITUTES
Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Ephesians 2 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2 Timothy 3 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
1 John 4 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 Corinthians 3: 1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. 21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; 22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 23 And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.
Galatians 3 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
James 5 19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Messianic Jews, judaizer , Seventh day Adventist what do they have in common? well they follow the old testament laws for a start, those laws that God has given for the Jewish people alone to observe and not the Christian Persons.. Christian persons follow solely the laws of the New Testament..
Now if I eat meat, can I still claim to be a vegetarian? No, of course not!
Could you be Christian and DENY Jesus and his finished work on the cross as well? NO
SO WITH THE Same logic. You can’t be Jewish, a Jew, a Judiazer and also now EMBRACE Jesus.
Almost a Christian is not the same thing as being a real Christian.
What a realy mess this all is with many people following their own religion version basically and not the true religion of Jesus Christ found in the New Testament.
YOU ARE A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN AND BUT NOT BOTH FOR BEING JEWISH MEANS FOLLOWING THE JEWISH RELIGION SOLELY AND NOT THE CHRISTIAN RELGION.
If someone born to a Jewish mother who embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT now a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They now are either a New Testament Christian, or a Old testament Jew..
The ‘messianic Jews’ now are just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN.
Do they even rightfuly firstly understand that Christianity teaches that Judaism is the ‘old’ covenant which Christianity has replaced?
As nobody today can follow both religions; for they are mutually exclusive.
Many people — some but not all Christians, and some Jews as well — erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. This is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Genetics might indicate that ones ancestors were Jews, but that does not, in fact, make one a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child proved to be of Jewish origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person’s mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith and wishes to identify solely as a Jew, then that person is considered fully Jewish. In addition, a convert to Judaism is fully Jewish. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race (for example one cannot convert to become an Asian or an African-American), one can convert to become a Jew. If someone who is Asian or African-American converts to Judaism, that person obviously remains an Asian or an African-American, and at the same time is a Jew. However, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
Even Messianic Jews with their false Judaism have clearly falsely diverted from being merely Jewish followers of solely Jesus Christ, It can be said to be now an undeniable cesspit of Jews hating Christians, the church and Jesus Christ still and they are still wrongfully following Judaism..They never once do they like to mention the blatant judgment that God will pour out on Israel for its idolatry , rather falsely stating that “ Israel remains God’s elect , chosen to bring his blessing upon the rest of humankind .” Talmudic Jews and United Nations’ Masons are looking for God’s blessing upon the rest of mankind . They are deceiving themselves and are aided and abetted by their own false teachers.. Though mankind’s blessings came from the Jews , so will all its curses . If you do not believe this you had better read your Bible . These people do not reveal or revere the real Jesus . If these Messianic Jews ever do these things I will believe they are true Christians . This group is nothing less than a fifth column deceiving supposed Christians and Jews who may have a real interest in Christ ;
. Satan wants you to think of the verse “ and so all Israel shall be saved “ , which means that all who trust Christ as Savior and Lord , not any unbelieving Jews .
. Christians and the current non-Christian Jews also do worship different gods , The Jews do not, did not truly honor Christ as the promised Messiah , but are looking for another that will come in his own name . The Talmud itself speaks of absolute mockery and hatred for Christ and Christians.
. Only a small remnant of remaining Jews will accept Christ after he has poured out his wrath upon them for their constant rejection of him .
. Messianic Jews do falsely want us all to believe that Jesus remains firmly connected to unsaved Jewish people . and that Jerusalem is still “that great city “ , but he has temporarily forsaken them because they forsook him . The Same attempt is made on when these deceivers say that Jewish people are still God’s chosen people . But an unbelieving Jew will go to the same hell that an unbelieving Gentile will go to . if you are a Christian, do you believe that the Jews go to Hell? the Christian answer will be “yes, anyone who doesn’t accept Jesus as their saviour goes to hell.” I think the more interesting question is, when did most of Jews stop worshipping God? Before or after Jesus was born? Before and after.. Who now really had changed? God or the Jews?;
. William J. Beausay reveals the heresy of “ apocryphal writings .“ Howard Silverman reveals the heresies of unbiblical rabbinic literature . Henri L. Goulet reveals the heresy of Jewish apocalyptic Literature and explains clearly what is taught about ancient rhetoric , which is probably unbiblical and perhaps Talmudic . Elliot Klayman reveals the heresy of Rabbinic Literature and its Talmudic association .
, Do they believe the Noahide laws to be “ the bedrock society from the dawn of civilization ?“ If so this is more evidence proving their satanic deception .
, There is still a “ Very Serious Problems Spiritual With The Messianic Jewish Congregations .” as they clearly are Unchristian..
Messianic Jews are still just as much Jews as anything and not the real Christians of Jesus Christ. Seventh day Adventism, Judaizers, Messianic Jew want to have one foot in Hell, in Judaism, and one foot in Heaven, Christianity and that is Impossible.
I respect Christians but I don’t respect ‘messianic Jews’ because they lie claiming they are both Jews and Christians.. give it up, you are one or the other.
All Jewish people, Messianic ones too can only be saved the same way as Gentiles can, by grace through faith in Jesus without the works of the law OF MOSES WHICH WAS DONE AWAY AFTER JESUS CHRIST CAME AND DIES ON THE CROSS
I agree that once you accept Jesus, you’re a Christian and no longer a Jew or a messianic Jew.
Messianic Jews, Judaizers Seventh day Adventists do now still have more in common with the Jews than the true Christians
Christians are NOT ‘or ever will be the restored Jews’ or the new Jews, they are only still the true Christians.,
YOU really CANNOT BE of the JEWISH relgion and EMBRACE JESUS. It is as simple as that.
NOTE THIS: Genesis 9:3-4 is proof of that to Noah. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
According to this verse, Noah was given permission to eat anything that didn’t have the blood still in it. Adam wasn’t given this permission, and it’s a much broader spectrum than the kosher diet of Moses’s law, where many animals were forbidden to eat under any circumstances. Different still, is the diet of the NT where now people can eat any animals without spiritual punishment.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses…… 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
2Cor 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 3:13 And not as Moses,which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
1Tim 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at(overlooked); but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 17:31 Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained;(JESUS) whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead.
That last group of verses is an absolute 100 megaton explosion to the argument about sacred objects, ‘godly’ graven images of the temple, relics of the OT, and the such implications that these things matter now, or ever really did. God passed it by due to the peoples ignorance, and most likely influences of false religions after leaving Egypt. God never seemed to care about gold, jewels, polished silver, fine brass, or the fabric of holy robes prior to Moses leading Israel out of Egypt, yet from this point on, it seemed to matter a great deal. These verses just explained it all away, and that’s why we as Christians are not instructed to carry on with these things.
Now that it should be apparent that most of the OT laws have been done away, what remains then? What’s going on? Well, theres only 9 commandments that are reiterated in the NT*, but they are summarized by 1 new one. John 13:34 is where Jesus says a NEW commandment He was giving was to love one another as He loves us, and Romans 13:8 says to love one another is to fulfill all of the law. That is the law now, there it is, all of it, right there, for also in loving one another you will not do any ill will to anyone. Paul even clarifies it, just in case you were wondering what kind of love to have.
There is also Galatians 5:14 “For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” Can it really get any clearer?
I will now take this one step further and show the Jesus was instituting this new set of rules even within His own life. Yes, Jesus Christ the Messiah was preparing people for a change, things were not going to be the way they were in the OT anymore, and this verse is painfully clear that a change was a comin’….
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Kind of interesting isn’t it? Jesus was well aware of all of the wars and fighting and bloodshed of the OT times and was putting an end to it once and for all. This was not the way of God, for He is love. The kingdom of heaven would no longer be able to be taken by violence, (from either side actually) because it would no longer be an earthly matter. We know this because of the examples the apostles set in peace and persecution through the first century church. They were not renegade assassins or anything like that.
So here come the verses that every Judaizer tries to hit me over the head with: Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
These verses have cause a lot of confusion in the faith, especially in light of the massive amount of verses I have already laid down in this section. Something needs to be made clear here. When Jesus was referring to “the law” in those verses, He was not referring to the law of MOSES. In fact, Jesus and the apostles differentiate between the law of God and the law of Moses in many places, this is a key point. Jesus proves that He is not talking about the law of Moses in some of the very next verses where He lists the commandments now, and even updates a few, making them stricter…..He says “anyone who breaks the least of THESE commandments shall be least in the kingdom.” What commandments? He didn’t name any yet, BUT HE WAS ABOUT TO. Remember, according to Hebrews 7 that there was a changing of the priesthood, therefore a changing of the law.
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Further proof that the law of God/Christ is different from the law of Moses is in…
John 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you NOT that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the TRUE bread from heaven..
Mat 19:7-8 and Mark 10:4-5 Jesus is asked about divorce and His answer is that MOSES gave them that precept because of the hardness of their hearts, and that it was not so from the beginning. Proving again that the law has changed more than once. Jesus then forbade it except in adultery.
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.
John 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be justified by the law of Moses.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. (The elders then came together and decided it was wise for Paul to purify himself in the temple and shave his head according to custom, in order to prevent a riot…it didn’t work, because the Jews knew Paul was in fact teaching this, and we know too from the many writings of Paul which I have already provided in this section.)
We also know from 1st Samuel 8:1 that God gave the people kings because they whined that they wanted a human king, He would have been their king. We also know that God sent them quails when they were tired of manna, so they ate meat until they got sick of it. Apparently God has always wanted a better way, but the Jews simply would not listen, so finally when Christ came, He came teaching the true way of the Father. As far as certain OT prophecies like Zechariah 14:16-19, which talks about there being observance of the feast of tabernacles by all people…simply read verse 8 and you will see this is all figurative/spiritual. Verse 8 talks about living waters flowing from Jerusalem. How can water be ‘living’? In the NT, living waters are talked about as something spiritual and not physical. Better proof is found back in Zech 12:4 where it says that every horse will be struck with astonishment and blindness, and their riders will go mad. Literally this verse is pointless, horses aren’t used for transportation anymore, they’re hardly even used for labor. Will cars and tractors go blind instead?
The last thing to address is the oft repeated argument of the promises of God, and verses about His perpetual covenant with Israel, such as in Exodus 31:16 that sabbath day keeping would be a part of this covenant, among other things like diet in Lev 3:17. These things all became nullified when the covenant was broken, and Israel was cast off. Think it didn’t happen? See Holy Racism to find out how and when… Israel became heathen, and eventually rejected their own messiah and the true ways of God (Matt 8:11-12, Matt 12:7, Matt 5:21-46, Matt 21:43, John 8:47, John 1:18, Act 2:36, Rom 11:20, Col 1:15, etc etc. see also Sacrifices, and OT violence for more info). As a result of their wickedness, God made good on His word and proved He did not make idle warnings to Israel (1Kings 9:6-7, Josh 24:20, 1Ch 28:9, 2Ch 7:19-20, 2Ch 15:2) which came to a climax with the destruction of the temple and scattering of the nation in 70 ad. These events dissolved the covenant, and THEREFORE nullified many OT prophecies of the coming days for Israel. Get out of the mindset that says God will keep His end of the bargain even if you don’t keep yours, http://www.angelfire.com/planet/loveoneanothe//judaizers.html
The Influence of the Hebrew Roots movement (HRM) has grown by leaps and bounds over the last century in America. It’s impact in this end time is being felt in all areas of Christendom of those who call Jesus Lord. For those who are Born of the Spirit, if they are Bereans and study the scriptures comparing this movement with the Gospel given to the NT church, they would see bright flashing danger signs. Sad to say, many are being deceived.
The Hebrew Roots Movement which encompasses Messianic Judaism and both in fact are one and the same, just packaged differently in order to deceive more people, is gaining momentum in these last days. While Messianic Judaism is more Christ oriented, it is really just a stepping stone to the HRM. Many Jews who have accepted Christ as Messiah, are attempting as the Jewish Christians in the early church, to mesh Grace with Judaism under the Old Covenant, making all inclusive with one another the Works of the Law, as well as the ordinances, such as the Sabbath and other holy days and combining them with Christianity. The great Apostle Paul had much to say about this in his letters to the early church. Read the book of Galatians where Paul addresses this heresy and warns the early church that if they follow this teaching, they have fallen from grace. http://www.angelfire.com/la/jlush/dangersHRM.html
A SCRIPTURAL VIEW OF MESSIANIC JUDAISM Exposing the heresy of the demonic Messianic Jew movement
1. The apostle Paul, a Jew said, “I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW” (1 Cor. 9:20).
2. “ALL WHO RELY ON OBSERVING THE LAW ARE UNDER A CURSE” (Gal. 3:10).
3. “CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW” (Gal. 3:13).
4. “NOW THAT FAITH HAS COME, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW” (Gal. 3:25).
5. “YOU HAVE BEEN SEVERED FROM CHRIST, YOU WHO ARE SEEKING TO BE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE” (Gal. 5:4).
6. “IF YOU ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT YOU ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW” (Gal. 5:18).
7. “WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS, IT SPEAKS TO THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW (Jews who are not born again)” (Rom. 3:19).
8. “THOSE WHO ARE CIRCUMCISED [JEWS] DO NOT EVEN KEEP THE LAW THEMSELVES” (Gal. 6:11).
9. “IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COULD BE GAINED THROUGH [KEEPING] THE LAW, CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!” (Gal. 2:21).
10. “GENTLES…DO NOT HAVE THE LAW…THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LAW” (Rom. 2:14) (Gentiles never have and never will have the Law.)
11. “NO ONE WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS IN HIS [GOD’S] SIGHT BY OBSERVING THE LAW” (Rom. 3:20).
12. “SIN SHALL NOT BE YOUR MASTER, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE [Grace is the God-given desire and power to do His will]” (Rom. 6:14).
13. “WE HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE LAW SO THAT WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE OLD WAY OF THE WRITTEN CODE” (Rom. 7:6).
14. “CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW … FOR EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES” (Rom. 10:4).
15. THE LAW IS “THE MINISTRY OF DEATH…[AND] CONDEMNATION” (2 Cor. 3:7 & 9).
16. “AVOID FOOLISH CONTROVERSIES AND GENEALOGIES AND STRIFE AND DISPUTES ABOUT THE [MOSAIC] LAW, FOR THEY ARE UNPROFITABLE AND WORTHLESS” (Titus 3:9).
Paul, said that “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28).
In conclusion, God’s law hasn’t been done away, it’s the law of Moses that is no more. We now have the true way, demonstrated in the New Testament through the life of Christ.
. Christian Zionism as a FALSE man made theology AND in its basic starting points does not discriminate between a very small Remnant of physical Israel who HAD accepted Christ and came entirely out of the Old Covenant shadows, and ALSO the large majority who rejected Christ and still reject him.