Are you really Eternally secure

(Acts 11:17 KJV) Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

(Acts 16:31 KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

(Rom 13:14 KJV) But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

BAD PASTORS HAVE LIED TO ME AND HAVE SAID THAT THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST IS A LIFE TIME EXPERIENCE .. THESE COWARDS OR FOOLISH VIRGINS NEVER MADE A FULL COMMITMENT. AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DO SO NEVER REPENT DAILY OF THEIR SINS STILL. THE ISSUE WAS IS JESUS THE ACTUAL FULL LORD OF YOUR LIFE OR THE DEVIL

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Eternal security – is it biblical?”
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It is amazing how many ungodly professing Christians still do think and falsely preach that just cause they had once received Jesus Christ as their LORD and saviour, they can now even live a self centered life, or cheat, lie, steal, sin deliberately and they next now will face no personal negative repercussions, they will not even lose their salvation..
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Philippians 3: 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
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1 Timothy 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
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1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. .

ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL SECURITY IS FALSE and also STILL false is the Rapture doctrine, which was generally the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or “catching away” was an important part of Darby’s teaching and by 1860 the “rapture” had made its way to the United States

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/why-is-dispensationalist-theology-false/

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Scriptures that refute “Eternal Security”

1 Parable of sower

  • Mark 4:16 (Luke 8:13) “And in a similar way these are the ones on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy; (they believe for a while) and they have no firm root in themselves, but are only temporary; then, when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately they fall away.

2 Fallen from grace passage:

  • Galatians 5:4 “You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”

3 Pruning passages:

  • John 15:5-6 “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch, and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”
  • Romans 11:19-23 “You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you. Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again.”

4 Hebrews Passages:

  • Hebrews 6:4-6 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame.
  • Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.”
  • Hebrews 10:38-39 “But My righteous one shall live by faith; And if he shrinks back, My soul has no pleasure in him. But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.”

5 Doctrinal Apostasy passages:

  • Acts 20:17,28-30 “And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called to him the elders of the church.” … “I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.”
  • 1 Timothy 1:18-21 “fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Among these are HYMENAEUS and Alexander”
  • 2 Timothy 2:16-18 But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are HYMENAEUS and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and thus they upset the faith of some.
  • 1 Timothy 4:1 “But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons”
  • 1 Timothy 6:20-21 “O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called “knowledge”-which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith.”
  • 2 Peter 2:1 “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.”
  • 2 Peter 3:17 “You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest, being carried away by the error of unprincipled men, you fall from your own steadfastness”
  • 2 John 8-9 “Watch yourselves, that you might not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.”

6 Moral Apostasy passages:

  • 1 Timothy 6:9-10 “But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.”
  • 2 Peter 2:20-22 “For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.””
  • James 5:19-20 “My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth, and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins.”

7 Revelation passages:

  • Revelation 2:4-5 “‘But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. ‘Remember therefore from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you, and will remove your lampstand out of its place-unless you repent.”
  • Revelation 3:5 “‘He who overcomes shall thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father, and before His angels.
  • Revelation 3:16-17 ‘So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. ‘Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked”

8 Old Testament passages

  • Ezekiel 18:24-26 “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? “When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die.”

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The fact the Bible exhorts to faithfulness proves one can be lost

1.be steadfast immovable: 1 Cor 15:58

2.If these qualities are yours…2 Pe 1:5-11

3.we will reap if we do not grow weary: Gal 6:9

4.be faithful unto death and I will give crown of life: Rev 2:10

5.practice these things and God will be with you: Phil 4:9

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Eternal salvation is only given to the obedient –

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Once made perfect, he [Jesus] became the source of eternal salvation for all who OBEY him (Heb. 5:9). All , people need to get saved and stay saved, which often doesn’t happen! The Christian life is a fight against sin (Heb. 12:4). Sin not only defiles, it can bring a righteous person to his spiritual death. To be worthy of Jesus, you must place him first in your life (even before your family), take up your cross and follow Jesus (Mt. 10:37,38). Only the continual followers of Jesus possess eternal life. Multitudes in our day, who profess to be Christians, only have the faith of demons. They profess Jesus as the Son of God, but live in sin. They do NOT have eternal salvation.

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It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.

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But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).

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https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/things-children-of-god-can-do/
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While it is true that
Jude 24 declares, “To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with great joy.” God’s power is able to keep the believer from falling and to present us before His glorious presence. But our eternal security is not just a result of God keeping us, maintaining our own salvation as we have our role, responsibilities as well.
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The Lord Jesus Christ proclaimed, “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand” (
John 10:28-29b).
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Ephesians 4:30 tells us that believers are “sealed for the day of redemption.”
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Romans 8:38-39, “For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
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Matthew 6: 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses

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It is also true that we have a free will still, we are not puppets and we can next chose, will to leave God on pour own, choose to go to Hell rather too.
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Romans 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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Galatians 6: 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Matthew 10: 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
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See also

I righfully do have very liitle respect for the people who demand that we obey the law as they define it too, and they mostly quote the old testament and omit or distort many of the new testament verses.. and come to us under false pretences now too.. such as trying to earn their way into heaven by changing others cause they had failed to change themselves it seems now.. they need to get the real Jesus still.. We all do need to get angry at the traditional heresy, lies, falsehoods and to get them out of our brains, as well as being angry with the the people spreading them too frequently !!!

We all Do not accept a “bad check” . So why do some people falsely think that we as Christians now do still have to tolerate and accept in love the bad behavior of any professing Christian if we now are the good Christians? I do NOT tolerate and accept any of the bad that they are doing rather we all should clearly ask them to repent from their wrong doings.

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

(Eph 5:11 KJV) And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

(2 Pet 2:17 KJV) These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

GOD DID NOT SUPPRESS YOUR FREE WILL.. IN FACT 50 PERCENT OF ALL ONCE LOUDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS NEXT DO DEPART WILLINGLY, CONSCIOUSLY FROM THEIR FAITH, A DOG THAT TURNS BACK TO IT’S VOMIT
PEOPLE STILL DO CHOOSE TO GO TO HELL BY THEIR OWN FREE WILL. GOD WILL NOT SEND A BELIEVER TO HELL THE PERSON HE NEXT CHOOSES TO GO THERE

(Phil 2:12 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Ask God to tell you the truth rather than trying to tell me what is the truth too

Now can a Person change themselves? Is there hope for anyone? Some people say that recognition of the problems, obstacles is basically 90 percent of the solution, and I really do also wish that next was true.. Now we all seem to meet all type of persons in real life, the control freaks, verbal and human right abusers, Bullies, enslavers, liars, cheaters, imposters, pretenders, con artists too. And we often simply do wonder why they do not change.. Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own negative ways, for they are too set in them now too. So someone in your world is doing something you don’t like. It isn’t always that easy. But don’t resort to threats, nagging and browbeating. That usually produces defensiveness, hostility and disharmony. You can live without all that. Change yourself first still too. You mostly Can’t Change Others but you can Change Yourself with God’s help now.

.. 1 Pet 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 Pet 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1 Pet 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Pet 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1 Pet 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Pet 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
1 Pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
1 Pet 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Pet 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
“Many people fervently believe that once saved, they can never lose their salvation.

If a man cannot lose his salvation then why would Jesus say: “When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away”?

Mark 13:13 says: [Jesus said] “ but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.” [NIV ]
If God didn’t want us to be able to choose He would not have given us the gift of freewill. It is this gift which places us above the animals. It is this gift which allows us to choose to either worship God or not worship God. It is this gift, and only this gift, which allows us to truly love Him like a son. It is this gift which proves that ‘once saved, always saved’ must be wrong.

If we are saved in spite of ourselves then there is no freewill. If there is no freewill then the Bible is wrong!

I don’t believe that the Bible is wrong” http://www.anointedlinks.com/o​nce_saved.html

No matter what view you want to hold here it is undeniable that the people who do not accept the finished work of Jesus Christ ended up in hell. did you lose your salvation next by trying to do it the devils way. Ex 32:33 “The LORD said to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.’”

Mat 10:32 “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.”

Luke 12:8 “And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God”

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/now-how-did-moses-abraham-the-great-jewish-patriarchs-next-make-it-to-heaven/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

http://www.imarc.cc/esecurity/jeffpaton3.html

 

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